Tuesday, May 1, 2012

Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks..

The bs line seems to be



To protect their modesty- to force people (especially boys/men) to judge them by their character and intelligence rather than looks/body



However this is total horsepoop as anyone covering up is judged ten times more by this look as a faceless thing with no identity, personality, assumeb dumb and underedcuated as seen as nothing moe then property to be used for sex and bringing up kids with no life or persoanlity of its own.



Note the word it as you cant tell if its human, animal, male, female anything.



If 8 woemn walk down the street far from not being looked at the one in the burka gets stared at for being the freak with no face or individuality or personality.



Where as the other girls are seen as just human. With clear individiulaity, persaonlaity, likely a name, and you can tell what they are into from dress, and hair style (just like guys)



As for sexaul elements... sure just like guys but people dont only see you as boobs. they may notice t



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

This is your overgeneralization of what you assume to be true about Muslims. Its not about not getting judged....get more informed.



Also, learn how to spell and write a decent paragraph.



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

believe in one God!



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

I am Muslim and I do not think its any of your business what I choose to wear or not and that is my rule



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

Dear pluto...there is not such a thing as islamist, u mean muslims. And well, we do everything to please Allah in the first place, since islam means "submission" to Allah...so now u know...you are not the center of our world...Alhamdulilah



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

I do not think it is Islam that says women should cover up completely. It says a woman should cover her up, but it does not say she should cover her face.



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

That's just it...clearly you don't get it...people aren't to be judged on appearance alone. Regardless of what they wear one must be open to them and receptive. I am quite sure your also not fond of people of color or Orthodox Jews or anyone else who dresses or looks funny to you. That being said GROW UP and learn to be tolerant and maybe, just maybe one of these folks might become a friend of yours. PEACE!



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

whet kend of enlish is thot?



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coot bik 2 skol



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Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

Its not to force anyone anything. For you to suggest Muslim women are not human then it only says something about you and nothing about them. Just a few decades ago all women dressed modestly, heck the swim suit and the mini skirt are only of the last century.



If you think clothes make for individuality and personality i take it you have never heard the saying "the clothes dont make the man"?



Women are far from being seen as property in Islam if that is your perception that is all it is YOUR perception NOT fact. I am neither faceless nor used for sex (that's a laugh, my town center on a Friday,Saturday night is full of "human girls" as you put it giving oral sex in the street, half naked and urinating openly, eating burgers and taking this weeks one night stand home. They are NOT used for sex though? Do i have that right?) nor do i lack a personality and yes i do bring up my children and have a career and a life outside my home.



I could not care less what an ****** like you sees me as. Do you seriously think we are worried about ignorant, dirty prejudice like you? Well i have one word for you .............. NO.



Ugly is as ugly does mate and well your just ugly inside and out. Good luck with that sounds like you need it.



Intelligent, modest, daughter, wife, mother, sister, bursting with individuality and personality, Scottish Muslim woman.....How you like them apples?



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...



I think with your answer to above question you have your own teenage problems to worry about. Now come on little boy bed time and let the adults talk. LOL



PS less than 5% of 1.6 billion muslim women wear a face veil and those that do, do it by choice. There is nothing in Islam that states we are to cover our faces. Come on is it not time for your homework yet? Hannah Montana not on tonight?



Do you help them while staring at there boobs? I think that is pretty sexist your own words in responce to the linked question you answered above.



Quote - " Will also stare ie check out and be facinated with your body, namely boobs , butt and try to avoid getting caught."



Sorry i cant provide a link for you of american soldiers killing a family including there 3 year old child, raping there teenage daughter then pouring gasoline on her then setting her alight. And what do you call that? Or because she is a muslim girl she doesnt count?



Are we to blame all americans? Or just the ones who committed the act?



But its OK for you to hate all muslims for the acts of a few?



Grow up little boy. Rant all you want, provide all the links you want. But you dont know Islam at all. I know it i live it and have experienced zero of what you suggest is common place. And dont tell me i have nothing to compair it too i was not born into a muslim family, i was not raised a muslim, i lived 33 years of my life as a non muslim and i know exactly what non muslim life is about. So i am more than qualified to know exactly what is on both sides of the fence. I think you need to grow up a little and not believe all the propeganda and hype out there designed to make you hate and vilify us. Bush has done a very good job on you. Can you say Baa now little sheep? Baa Baa.............



CAROL B the smartest answer i have seen all day. I applaud you sister, go girl :)



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

Hmm i agree actually, why would God give you a face at all if he wanted you to hide it from almost everyone forever and ever?



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

well you like to make out you know what you are talking about. You write plenty but say nothing. A Muslim woman does not have to cover her face up.



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

Well, Pluto (good choice of a name, after a planet that's in the dark), I am practically at a loss for words after that illiterate tirade. I am not Muslim (Islamist, in your words), but if I knew you were in my country, I would be wearing the heaviest burka ever made! I was so stunned by your ignorance about this issue that I looked up a couple of other Questions you've fouled with your contributions, and I'm sincerely suprised that you haven't been blocked by this website. I wouldn't be surprised if you name is on one of those website that let the public know if sexual offenders live in their neighbourhoods.



Well, compliments aside, here's my view of hijab. The burka as a completely covering garment is not particularly part of Islamic teachings, it is a cultural expression like wearing blue jeans or sarongs. Islam does ask women to wear hijab, which simply means clothing that is not revealing. Depending on your ethnic culture, that will mean different things. It could mean a long dress or wearing slacks. It could mean wearing a head scarf or keeping long hair. It basically means that a woman should dress in a way so that her appearance is not a "come on" to men who see her. Judging from the things you write, you think of women as sexual animals. If a woman is wise, and respects herself as a special person created by God, she will not let herself become part of that fantasy game. She can look attractive and pretty, but not by showing parts of her body, or even the shape of her body which are her own business. A woman owns her own body, and modest dress and behavior is the sign to the world that she respects herself and demands respect. I have a Muslim friend who is an American married to an Iranian. She lived in Iran for several years, and said she came to appreciate the long covering they wear there. She liked being able to go around anonymously on the street and not be bothered by men. When I visited there, I saw an interesting sight. A young woman, maybe 18 or 19, was passing by, holding her long robe around her, under her chin (they don't cover the face). The wind was blowing strong and blew aside her robe. Underneath, she was dressed just like teenaged girls here - long-sleeved T shirt, jeans, and Nikes. Women and girls at home aren't covered in a sack, even in a fundamentalist country like Iran. Did you know that when Muslim women make the Hajj (the pilgrimage to Mecca), they do not veil their faces? Everyone making the Hajj has to dress in a sort of uniform, so that all people are alike, like one family. Just think how those Burka girls would feel if they and their families believed showing their faces was wrong?



Wearing a total covering may offend you, and I am sure that some women don't care for it, but why are you so fired up about it? What makes you so threatened? Judge women by their characters when you get to know them, not by how they look at first glance. And don't judge a religion by the fact that you can't ogle their women!



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

there is only one God



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

Here's an interesting point. The Burka (as in full face covering) is not actually required by Islam. It predates Islam and is part of an older Arabic tradition.



Let people believe what they want to though. Forcing belief on others will only ever lead to bloodshed.



I respect your opinion, but I do disagree. Let people do whatever the hell they like. Not hurting you is it? We're all the same species.



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

Actually all ppl are initially judged by their appearance. If you want people to recognize that you have money you wear designer lables, if you want ppl to recognize that you have a fit body you wear body revealing clothing, if you want people to recognize your long legs you wear a short skirt, the list could go on forever.



The point is that people dress in a way that allows them to be recognized for what they view as important. Some don't care at all about fashion, but even their appearance is a testament to that. What people can recognize in one another determines how people treat one another. If you are a prostitute you dress in a way that identifies you as such, and you welcome sexual advances because sexual behavior is most important to you as it is your job. If you are a doctor and in a hosp., you dress in a way that communicates to ppl that that is what you are.



If you are a Muslim woman who covers you WANT to be recognized as such by everyone who sees you. You dont want anyone to confuse with anything else because that identity is what is most important to you and will not be compromised.



The reality is that many people may not understand why Muslim women cover as they do, some even hate it, some think its comical. Whatever view one has you know that when you see this woman she is not someone who wants to play around, and be bothered with foolishness.



Your comments about what people see when they look at Muslim women are based on your own personal opinions. Its okay everyone has them. As long as you still treat Muslim women with the respect you would give any human being it doesnt matter whats in your head, right?



The word Islamists is not a real word, a person who follows Islam is called a Muslim.



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

im not about to read your entire argument, but ...



If you believe a woman should be able to wear what she wants, then let her cover her body if she wants to!!



the quran states that a woman should cover her body, like her hair, her legs, her curves, so that she gains respect and averts the eyes of men. Dont talk about "self-restraint" for men because scientifically, a mans lust for a woman is twice that of a womans lust towars men. And just because you can control yourself, it doesnt mean every other guy could. ask your male friends.



Which one would you respect more, anyway? a modestly dressed woman, or a girl wearing hotpants and a low cut top with double d's popping out?



The "niqab" is nothing islamic at all. Not only is it unneccesary, It deprives a woman of her identity. because that "niqab" is a way for men to oppress women, you see it as a part of Saudi Arabian culture. Nowhere in the quran does it state to do this, so dont bring muslims into this.



Yes, we're called "muslims." where the hell did you come up with the word "islamist?"



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

Dear Brother,



You see the world is made by God %26amp; it is He who decides the rules to be followed by us in His world.



REGARDING BURKHA



In the books revealed by GOD. We come to know that looking with lust is also a sin. Which people dont want to believe in.



In the name of freedom they exploit women.



For selling all sort of thing which are not even related to women in any way they advertise with women with less clothes and more of skin.



Bible Matt 5:28



But I say to you, That whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.



Matt 5:29



And if your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and cast it from you: for it is better for you that one of your members should perish, than that your whole body should be cast into hell.



Bible Matt 18:9



And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and cast it from you: it is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into the fire of hell.



Quran Sura 24. An-Nur



30



Enjoin the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that is chaster for them. Surely Allah is well aware of their actions.



31



Likewise enjoin the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their modesty; not to display their beauty and ornaments except what normally appears thereof; let them draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their charms except to their husbands......



Quran Sura 33. Al-Ahzab



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O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, daughters and the believing women that they should draw their outer garments over their persons. That is more proper, so that they may be recognized and not bothered. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.



From the above we observe that the Burkha that is worn helps men to save their eyes from sin. And the women get satisfaction that they are obeying GOD, and they do not get unwanted attention.



BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE IS A HELL THAT IS ALREADY BLAZING. THIS IS THE REWARD FOR THE DISBELIEVERS.



The chances of a girl or women getting molested is obvisously more when she wears teasing clothes.



Why dont people question the women who dresses less rather that women who cover themselves properly.



STONING TO DEATH WAS THE PUNSIHMENT PRESCRIBED IN THE BOOKS OF MOSES %26amp; JESUS pbt BEAUSE THOSE BOOKS WERE REVEALED BY THE SAME GOD..



Bible John 8:3-11



3And the scribes and Pharisees brought to him a woman taken in adultery: and when they had set her in the midst, 鑱?They say to him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 鑱?Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned; but what sayest thou? 鑱?This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with [his] finger wrote on the ground, [as though he heard them not]. 鑱?So when they continued asking him, he raised himself, and said to them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 鑱?And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 鑱?And they who heard [it], being convicted by [their own] conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, [even] to the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 鑱?0When Jesus had raised himself, and saw none but the woman, he said to her, Woman, where are those thy accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 鑱?1She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.



You see above that Jesus Christ pbh did not oppose the people by telling that it was



not in the law. but he told them that a sinless person to cast the stone, (because of his merciful nature. only jesus christ had the right to cast the stone that is why he said "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."



Leviticus 20:2



2..............seed to Molech, he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.



Leviticus 20:27



鑱?7..........shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood [shall be] upon them.



Leviticus 24:16



16And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, [and] all the congregation shall certainly stone him:...................shall be put to death.



Numbers 15:35



鑱?5And the LORD said to Moses, The man shall surely be put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.



Numbers 35:17



鑱?7And if he shall smite him by throwing a stone, by which he may die, and he shall die, he [is] a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.



THESE ARE THE LAWS ACCORDING TO GOD.



See the European countries they Claim Bible to be A book given to them by God. But when it is told in the Bible not to even sin with the EYE.



They distribute LICENCES to the Prostitues. Check them for AID for renewing the LICENCE.



BROTHER IT IS EITHER YOU BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS BOOKS OR NOT.



You are either a believer or unbeliever.



And remember for all the disbelievers



"The Lord " has prepared a HELL.



Quran Sura 66 . At- Tahrim



6



O believers! Save yourselves and your families from hellfire, whose fuel is men and stones; in the charge of fierce and mighty angels who never disobey Allah's command and who promptly do what they are commanded to do.



7



They will say to the unbelievers: "O unbelievers! Make no excuses for yourselves this Day. You are being rewarded according to your deeds."



Please be free to contact me on my email, if you want any clarification on the above or any thing else on ISLAM



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

For one who does not judge by looks you do rabbit somewhat about Islamic dress!!!!!



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

breif question add some details.



have you tried wearing a burka (by the way you spelt that wrong) before you start telling us how we feel in one?



islamists?whereing? buka? next time sit with a dictionary mate.



bloody heck man!!! what the hell is a NJAB?!!!!!!!!



if you dont know the arabic word for it stop acting cool and just say veil!!!!!



Where do islamists get the silly notion that whereing a buka/njab means people dont judge by looks...its wrong

If this is about Muslim dress for women and oppression of women in Islam then why post a link to a Hindu site? Don't you know that Hindus are NOT Muslims.



Are you uneducated, perhaps?

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