Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

I have friends who white and they say Jesus is white,and I also have friends who are black that say that Jesus was black.I tell those races that he was neither.They asked me then what Jesus

Latino such as yourself?I told them no Jesus was not even Hispanic.Hispanic people did not even exist in Jesus time,and Hispanic is more of a preference,never a race.Jesus was human.In fact Jesus lived a pre human existance before he came to earth,taught us that he was the son of god,and he died for us because of our sins.What does it matter if Jesus was black or white?Jesus himself was not partial of race,so what would it matter?These idiots still did not get the point after I had explained to them who Jesus was.Although Israel formerly

known as Canaan,was inhabited with people of color,it was not documented that Jesus was black.The bible says he had hair of wool,ashy feet,est.But there are many people around the globe that look like that.You don't have to be black to have those dominant features.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

I have seen a number of questions about that, including one that asked if Christians would still worship Jesus if they found out he was black.

My answer to your friends would be:

Does it realy matter? His skin didn't save me, his shed blood did (1 Thessalonians 1:7; 1 John 1:7)

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

I agree with you, and I, too, ask why anyone should care what color our Saviour was.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

Studies show that He was dark-skinned and had dread-locks. He is the human form of God which means He is all of us wrapped up in one. Because we are all created in the image of God.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

Jesus was definitely NOT white. He would have had a swarthy complexion, undoubtedly dark skinned, as did most of the Jewish population in that area at that time.

It doesnt matter what color He was. The issue is "What did He do?" He died for YOUR sins and mine and is offering forgiveness and the righteousness of God that will allow us into His holy Heaven.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

Anyone who debates whether Jesus was black or white is going to hell.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

jesus is a myth...he can be purple if thats what you'd like

but according to the buybull..the dude was in the middle east...NOT a cracker

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

I didn't think there was such a huge debate over this.

What does it matter what race He was?

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

I have not heard that debate. Obviously, given where he was born he would not have looked "anglo", and would not have looked "black", so who cares? He is no respecter of persons, so why should we be?

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

He would have looked like any other Jew he was Jewish and the bible says there was nothing physically special about him.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

You are right. The color is not the important thing. It is why He came that is important.

He was born in Bethlehem. In answer to your question about a debate, I am not aware of a debate.

Love to you.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

I agree, Jesus' race and physical appearance doesn't matter. He came to teach LOVE and FORGIVENESS and BROTHERHOOD. He came to bring people BACK TO GOD.

How would race make a difference here?

For the record, he was a Jew who lived in a time before sunscreen existed. He was most likely tanned with strong features and dark hair %26amp; eyes. Everyone under the hot Middle Eastern sun was tanned, 'cause there was no spf back then.

But again, this doesn't amount to a hill of frijoles. It's his LIFE that counts, his life and his CAUSE.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

Ok, I refer you to the story of Moses in exodus, he was married to a black woman (african) and Mirriam, Moses sister dissed her, Moses warned her, but she did it anyway. Boom! She was struck with leprazy. And when she repented she was cured. Moses prayed for her. Jesus was Jewish, does that say a color to you? Honestly, in anatimy during disection, we are all the same under the epidermus layer, so its insidious to go on about skin color-----foolish. and God doesn't put up with it!

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

Canaan was a mixed bag because of the Roman Empire, but how many Galilean Jews are or were ever black? I think the debate is dumb. He looked like a Galilean, so probably Arab features in the face and eyes, and lighter than Arab Jewish skin.

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

I have read these views post on how Christ looked and I must say that I do not find many of them Biblical, although there are a few.

Christ was of Jewish decent. I do not believe that His physical appearance would have made Him stand out in a crowd.

It was the character of His Father that drew people to Him and not his looks.

He was not white, nor black and not even purple. He was of the race of Jew閳ユ獨 from the line of David. There are many shades of Jews if anyone has noticed.

What does it matter to our salvation?

Peace and Grace

David

Why is there a debate weither or not if Jesus is black or white?

Very easy answer: He came from a line of Jewish people.

Jesus Christ was/is a Jew.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

This one is for those who believe the bible is the literal word of god....

So by creating Eve from Adam's rib, making her a genetic copy, god was severly limiting the gene pool from which all of humanity was to come.

Hypothesizing that Adam had dark skin and hair, meaning Eve had dark skin and hair, how would the genes for the differences in humanity that we see today be possible?

And before everyone starts shouting "It was sin! It was sin!", tell me how Adam %26amp; Eve sinning could possibly create the gene for blonde. How could sin possibly add elements to a gene pool?

So could it have been because there was change, mutation within the human species along the way?

If not, how else could this have happened?

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

A step further, how did the world get repopulated from Noah's time? Noah's wife was black, so his sons had to be half black... so we are all black to one degree or another? this isn't that far fetched, in that science is still basically Afro-centrist as well. but accounting for 6 billion dilutions from an 8 person gene pool or a 2 person gene pool is statistically insignificant.. simply impossible..

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

Rib is the hebrew word for "curve"..as in the curve of the Double Helix of DNA

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

When God cast Cain away when he killed Abel, he removed the pigment from his body for a form of punishment.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

I'm really curious as to what christians think when they walk in a museum and see the dinosaur skeletons...I mean really seriously, are they that ignorant?

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

You assume the physical laws were the same then. You can only assume or take on faith that genetics performed in the same manner.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

You do know, that we have discovered similiar benefits from other parts of the body that are as helpful as 'embryonic stem-cells'.

Why do you fight with science? We're still learning.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

The Bible states that there were other people in the world in addition to Adam and Eve. Including Able's wife and the people of the city of Nod. The creation "in God's image" is a spiritual creation , not a physical one.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

do you notice how skin color is often changed from one climate to another. Let's think about that shall we.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

Eve lived for 800 years and Adam lived for 600 years.. Eve ate the forbiden fruit and Adem kicked her out of the house. Then she left out from the garden of eaden and met a chinese guy.. Chaw Limp Po.... we are from Chaw Limp Po tribe.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

Good question and I'm dying to hear the various responses. My contribution is: could it have been an "albino" happening? It is the same idea with blue eyes....where did they come from? I suspect that eventually all light hair and eyes will become extinct...so take lots of photos for future generations!

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

Wow. That's the first time I've heard anyone say the mark God placed on Cain was turning him white. I've heard plenty of rednecks say God turned him black. I was raised fundamentalist but am no longer Christian. But based upon this background, I can tell you that fundamentalism doesn't mean you can't believe in micro-evolution. You can believe that small gene mutations occur from person to person without believing that over time man evolved from other species. I'm fuzzy on the logic of that, but plenty of fundamentalists do. You can also believe that God doesn't have to obey the laws of science and can make blond people if he wants to. The thing about fundamentalism is, there's always an answer to everything...and it always makes sense to them.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

Too many people take the bible as a literal statement that isn't open to interpretation.

Its a metaphor, an image, God gave it to us to better explain how we came to be. When it was written we wouldn't have understood or accepted evolution in any way.

I heard one person say that to question the bible and only believe in parts is a sin, but I don't accept popular view that the bible is 100% word of God. I believe that all men are flawed, even the men who wrote down the books, they could have made mistakes, or just changed something to suit them selfs.

Thats my view and I know it will offend a lot of Christians. And yes, I do believe in Jesus Christ, which makes me a christian too.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

unlike humans God doesn't forget that only thing that doesn't change is change itself.So he knew that even if they were made from same gene change is Inevitable. and there was no sin because God already knew what was gonna happen. because if he didn't, he would be God.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

micro-evolution

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

God created Adam and Eve to become the parents of all living. They had many different genes and were not limited to only one variety. God loves variation. Why would he make duplicate copies of Adam and Eve? How boring. You can see variation in all things. Why does variation have to be a mutation? A mutation is not good. Most mutations can not procreate. I have never seen a life that is a copy of it's parents. There is always some difference some where.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

Man sweats the small stuff when it comes to God and his creation...it just is.

It does not take anything away from God nor does it add anything to him. He created man...he made the rainbow...it has color. I do not believe the skin and hair color had anything to do with sin...I think it had a thing to do with the regions in which every man and woman lived. The climates and the environment. When man built the tower in Babylon everyone was in one accord and spoke the same language, so God changed that...if one tells a story do they sometimes leave out the details. Does it matter who was first the brown eyed people or the blue eyed? God created man that is all we need to know...Jesus saves and if we believe it; we shall recieve the promises of God.....that is enough for most and it is enough for me..

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

In this day and age scientist, who are just barely scratching the surface of genetics and DNA, are already able to genetically manipulate DNA to produce exactly the charactieristics they want in an offspring. Including things not found in the parents.

God, who understands DNA to the point of having created it, would have no problem manipulating Adam's to produce an Eve that had all the other traits needed for mankind. The Bible does not say that God "cloned" Adam. Rather it says it took out of Adam all the material he used to create Eve.

That could well mean that he take out of Adam the blonde gene, and put it in Eve (leaving him a brunette). He took out of Adam the brown eyed-gene, leaving him with blue eyes. He took out of Adam the light skinned gene, leaving him with dark skin, etc. We know for sure that he ended up with the opposite sex when he did it. It would be just as easy for him to end up with the "opposite" of eveything else.

The way in which he produced Eve made the largest possible, not the smallest possible, gene pool where only two people are involved.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

Genesis 9 13 the rainbow gods bend light in 7 living colors science laser light straight line only o,k, after the flood Noah open the doors and his sons went down the mountains and we are all son of Noah a ham . some went to tubal some to Spain some to the coast some to Egypt etc read it good for your mind amen luv dad

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

With God everything is possible what He wants to do.

Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

I'm only able to guess about the answer to your question because there's nothing in my stinking copy of the bible to give me a clue... It's a godam useless book when it comes to having answers to logical questions. So here's my guess...

It might be ... E V O L U T I O N A R Y ...

Blonde, red, black and whatever hair color you'd like, and even baldness might be a variety of evolutionary trial steps in nature's search for the next generation of human expansion.

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Fundamentalists...still another question regarding Adam and Eve......?

my hair hurts! LOL

i don't know but when I see my priest tomorow I will ask him..... and he will tell me... but I won't tell you.. I am going to keep it a secret and let you wonder about it...

no seriously. i am so confused. i don't think that sin has anything to do with hair color and other than that i don't know anything. and that is my story.

How to achive a healthy life style?

Chemical imbalances in your body are caused by stress and improper diet and exercise; producing DHT in your bloodstream cutting off the circulation of blood to your hair follicles thus causing the thinning and loss of hair and many other health issues. Is their a standard chart for the body閳ユ獨 natural chemical balances and a way to monitor those balances without having to go to the doctor? Can society be restructured to reduce stress for everyone? It seems like having a peace of mind is worth attaining. What goal should the average human being be seeking in terms of health and Chemical balances?

How to achive a healthy life style?

1) happyness

2) health food

3) sports

Would you like to get to know us, our culture and our country because we're unknown?

Special thanks to my American friend who helped me proofread my writing.It's taken me almost a year to find some pieces of this information.

I believe that if you spend 5-10 minutes reading this essay, you will be better informed than if you listen to a lifetime's worth of Major Media news. Please don't assume that I'm a very old person. I'm just 18, and a university student studying English who just cannot sit back and let the lies fly unchallenged.

This article has two parts:

1. Cultural and general info

2. Political info.

If you wanna know the rest of of the story, read it from top to bottom.

Note: I've explained all the things that you ALWAYS talk about, so read it all plz! (Anytime you like!) Specially the political part! Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.

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Hi. I'm an Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.

The first thing America, and the West in general, accuses our government of is that we don't allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don't like as much as anyone. But come on, there are only a few restrictions.It's so cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don't even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa. That's why you don't understand a few of Iran's laws because some of them are based on our culture. You look at our country from "your own point of view"! In Iran every single house has a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style (I'm talking about public places, in our privacy there's no difference). A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Almost half of women wear their hair out, and make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere. Iran is one of the super-consumers of cosmetics. You would be surprised to see the difference between what you imagine and what Iran really is!

In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, inflation and air pollution. But I guess these are common problems around the world today, aren't they? Also, you can't compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past!Nearly 65-70% of Iran's population is a new generation without the biases of the past (The youth), and we've transformed everything.

Some people think women don't have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. But that's not a bad thing. They're very respectful, and they've been the winners in so many cases: They get into the best universities because they're very smart. And they get the best jobs because they can do so many of them better than men. (That's why men can hardly find any good jobs because most jobs are already occupied by women!) They've got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so they (men) will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that's because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I've put a sample here. I feel foolish for sitting here explaining ordinary things to you.

Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? Are they balck and white or colourful? But in one case (related to many years ago) something terrible had happened which was just beyond the borders of adultery.We think being punished for corruption is good, as it deters people from doing that and the society will be far healthier than the countries in which commiting such things is considered to be normal! Iranians expect their gov't not to be soft on criminals.And for your information, most of those footages are from Afghanistan which was ruled by freaks (Taliban). What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they were/are treated in Saudi Arabi? I'm sorry I didn't know "over a billion Moslems" lived there!When you think of such things, try to think of the racism in your country too. There's no perfect country!

I find it difficult to make you understand that Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! I find it even more difficult to make you understand that Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The point is, there's nothing mysterious about us! The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: "IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!" "IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!" Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.

There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. You don't hear about their discoveries and inventions on TV. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions and there are many kids like that. Every year a special scientific compition (Kharazmi) is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don't the Media talk about them? Please don't summarize our nation and culture with the single word "nuclear". Although we're proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.Did you know that the countries having the highest number of scientists in the world are in this order? 1-India 2-Korea 3-Iran

A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine and it was signing treaties with other countries to export it. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it. What did I find instead? "President Bush CLAIMS that bomb parts are imported from Iran into Iraq!" (The same old story!) The Media are unjust. They put CLAIMS on the headlines, but they never talk about facts!

Some interesting facts:

Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian. The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It's one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they're among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman, and a song by one of the pop singers who/which won the nobel peace prize are Iranians. Lots of Iranians win nobel prizes specially in the field of medicine. Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans! For example you can buy windows vista for 1 Dollar here instead of 700 Dollars!!! or 3 supper pizzas for 10 Dollars!!!wow!) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in 'developed' countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! (Some people think it never snows here! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol) The list is endless.(I still feel foolish for talkng about ordinary things!)

News: "Iranian scientists managed to make human teeth grow after you've lost them using basic cells" I'm gonna introduce Iran's international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It's fully in English. You'll find what they're hiding from you! In the "Sic / Tech" section you'll always see Iran's discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx... Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!

Some charactristics of Iranians would be:

Negative: We are proud, greedy, hard-working (for ourselves), not punctual, impatient, and lazy at doing our duty well, crazy about luxuries and thus extravagant! Highly competitive!

Positive: intelligent, ambitious, a bit idealistic, well-dressed, formal, well-educated, warm and friendly, hospitable.

Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California, New Mexico, Utah, Arkansas, and Alabama a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn't it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran

If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places: (It's like a free tour!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...

http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...

http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...

http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...

http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran

Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. Did you know that Iranian music was chosen as the best pop in France in 2005? It could even defeat Euro-pop! All Iranian songs are current pop / DJ music. I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they're some of the best songs they've ever heard. What makes Iranian music killer, is a lot of Trance drums, catchy tune, uprising melody and incredible lyrics!

Here's a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose "Save Target As" to download them.I guess you'll fall for it! The translation of the songs is here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...

3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

8.(Farangis "A female name" 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...

10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...

11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...

12.(You can't: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...

13.(The wind's kiss: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

14.(Reveal your visage: 2004) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

15.(What would have happened if : 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...

And so on and on!

It's now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts, riding camels and carrying around guns! See how the media are fooling people?

Let's clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans I chatted with said in the U.S it's said that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. It's easy to show a video or an image of our president or leader on the TV screen or on the internet and say he says this, he says that.....I really don't get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. For example does verbal defence of Palestinians cause them to have a better life? The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would misuse it against Iran. For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that. No sane person would take such nonsense at face value.

First of all, Iranians don't hate anyone. If our government complains about some injustice going on in the world, it's not bad, is it? (Although what we want from them is to shut up and not get us into trouble by talking about things that are none of our concern) We hate neither Jews nor Americans. I love Americans, otherwise why would I talk to them?! How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! I've got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov't. Jews are faithful people! A few of them live here in our neighbourhood and they live just like the rest of Iranians. No difference. And two of Iran's parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Muslim knocking at your door asking you to do so? It's so funny the way you imagine things and make yourselves believe in your own immaginations!

Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us. I wonder why the media like putting words in our mouth and raising hatred. In Iran, religion is one of the least important factors. Where you come from and what your religion is are not important to us at all. On the contrary, meeting different people would be very interesting for us!

I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone's guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he's going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same "nuclear weapons" tosh over and over and brainwash people! News headlines: "We won't allow Iran to gain nuclear weapons"!!! Correction! It's "nuclear energy". Besides, how many "nuclear weapons" do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That's what nuclear agency says. Only Iran's opponents are pulling Iran's leg and what they say is of no credit. It's just based on political conflicts. What we're doing is legal. What they ask us to do (ignoring our international rights) is illegal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It's the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them. It can set an example to some countries that just follow their interests (oil!). Interesting! the countries accusing Iran of different things have been, and are still accused of the same things!!! How logical!

Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! But have they told you the rest of his speech and that why he's said this at all? You know that it's a passive sentence. He's never said that IRAN wants to wipe Israel off the map! He wasn't talking about destroying Israel. He was talking about relocating Israel, so that they could live seperate from Palestinians and they could both live in peace. They've only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it's mistranslated intentionally. Iran has always defended itself, but it's not an offensive country.

Some say he's said: "The Holocaust is a myth!" Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that's terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren't important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that's not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran's population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it's OK and no one says they're threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you'd get the point why he's IRONICALLY said it's a myth. Moreover, don't you believe in freedom of speech/mind? I'd judge people by their ACTIONS rather than by what they say / their religion / race / culture and the colour of their skin!

Obviously, some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on. And what country is better than Iran to be a scapegoat? The whole world believes that Iran isn't a peaceful country. I know Americans don't like this either, but what can they do? They're not responsible for controlling what the Media says. This part is just for Americans who would still argue over unimportant things: Those of you who say why Iran says "Death to America":

1. 'America' to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean "American people" when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up "no war" placards?!

2. The new generation don't say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that's because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn't it?

3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt's terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn't deny that attacking countries is a mistake. right?)

5. The U.S gov't helped Saddam attack Iran and I hope you know which country gave Iraq biological weapons which killed lots of Iranians.

6. America hit an Iranian airplane over the Persian Gulf and killed 200 passengers for no reason.

7. America places sanctions on Iran, promotes a false image of Iran and Iranians, scares tourists away, and harms our economy, development and credit. To what purpose?

When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he's said, what do you call Bush for his actions? I mean it's a good idea to consider what Bush is doing to the world with his wrong decisions and lies. Bush is powerful and influencial, but Ahmadinejad is nothing.

To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:

1. Firstly, It's related to so many years ago and it's almost a part of history, and don't forget that when there's a revolution, there'd be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they're all alive and healthy. Aren't they?

2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Poor British sailors were detained by the English gov't just for saying that they were treated well in Iran and that Iranians were logical people (They said these when they were on England's soil!) They were PREVENTED from releasing their memoirs by England! Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!! Considering all this, you'd probably be able to GUESS what percentage of what they tell you about the Mid-East, Islam, Moslems and other things is true!!! lol

Isn't it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov'ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don't care about hurting people's feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. You know something? All govt's are hateful. I just said the above things because it sounds unfair when some Americans talk about the taking of the 444 hostages while I keep silence. I hope you agree on this one! Now, what do you think? I can't wait to see both nations in peace. It'd be marvelous! They've started to have diplomatic talks! (Naughty children!) That's great!

Thanks for your time

Would you like to get to know us, our culture and our country because we're unknown?

Hello! I read your whole post, every word. I looked at the pictures and some of the other links. I didn't listen to any music though. Here are some random comments I have:

Here in America, MANY of us know President Bush is a nutcase. Only 1/3 of the people approve of the job he is doing as President. I am so glad you don't judge Americans by him, and some of his noisy supporters. People are beginning to realize that the Bush government has lied to them about many important things.

It makes me happier than you can know to learn that the Iranian people don't hate Americans, any more than Americans (except for a small hateful minority) hate Iranians.

I believe that the big powers such as China, Russia and the US want to keep the Mid East in turmoil, because if countries like Iran and Iraq, Lebanon and Israel, Turkey and Afghanistan are putting their resources into fighting each other, they are less likely to compete with the big powers, who feel threatened by them. Some few rich people here are profiting from keeping oil prices high, and from stirring up dissent in the Middle East.

Thank you so much for taking the time to describe what life is like in Iran. I didn't know anything about it, and I wanted to know the real truth. The pictures that I looked at show your country to be one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen. I would give my heart to be able to visit there, and eat a meal with people like you and your family, and sit and drink tea and talk to you and your friends.

Please don't judge American news by Fox News!! They are not taken seriously here by many. If you like, look at MSNBC.com, or www.newsweek.com. They are my primary source for news.

I am wholeheartedly sorry for the deaths of your people by American military and political forces. I do not believe in war and killing, and I have never supported any fighting in the Middle East.

Like you, I dream of all nations at peace with each other.

Would you like to get to know us, our culture and our country because we're unknown?

He's said "half the women wear their hair out"! the first answerer is talking about Iraq not Iran! oh make sure you try Iranian music.It's just like American music mixed with Euro-pop and has a special style that anyone would like! Just like Iran's nature, its music is really beautiful! Report It

Would you like to get to know us, our culture and our country because we're unknown?

They say America is free, they say that your country is bad, so you are saying there were at least some of you that liked it the way it was, and the media is full of propaganda. That is truthful, but there are things that your country does that I could not go along with and vice versa. Stop the suicide bombings please? Violence only increases violence and does not stop it, just because there were people that did bad things does not mean that we have to be people that do bad things.

Our countries ought to try to get along that is correct, but shouldn't our country leave your country alone unless you are asking for our assistance? It did not matter how many were killed in this war, but it was not all of us that thought it was right, we were lied to. We have problems here that the money going into warring on your country would have been better be able to help with and it is hurting both of our countries.

I think that for America to be America it can not be a different country then what the constitution asked for it to be, we stood up against having a king here and yet that is exactly what we seem to have, and I think that you should and do have a right to speak here and say what is on your mind, thank you.

I believe in freedom of speech and emotion so much that I have created an open group that you don't have to belong to and you can go there and read or go there and post here is a link to that:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Freedom-of...

I do not doubt that this will be removed from here, haters will probably have it removed, but in my eyes you had a right to ask it, I think you answered your own question though, so I have to ask why did you really do that? Do you want people to know that there is always another side to things in general? I think so too. Yet half as much would have probably been recieved far better as I have been told.

I don't hate you or your people, you are just a human being just like anyone else and that is what I am for human rights, I just think that you need to work hard to keep changing your country if that is what you all want and work on finding peace and equality there? If you come to America because it is better in some ways find those ways and when you go back to your country take them with you and stand up to your government until they change. I know it is not easy, it is not easy for me either, but they are hurting all of us and that has to stop!

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

Signs of the Last Hour

The following information is a summary of a lecture given by a scholar of Riverside, Gharm-Allah El-Ghamdy, around the fall of 1991. Editor's notes are in brackets []. It is hard to tell whether certain of these events have already occurred, or when they will precisely occur. Allah knows best.

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Though Allah only knows when the Last Hour before the Day of Resurrection will come, He has given us 'clues' about its approach through information in the Qur'an and the hadith of the Prophet. The signs can be separated into two categories: minor and major. This article does not cover all the signs, but most of the important ones are here. All these signs are, of course, based on hadith and/or Qur'an, mainly the former.

Minor Signs (in no particular order)

"The coming of the Last Prophet, Muhammad ibn Abd-Allah (SAW)." [This has already happened, of course.]

"The slave will become the master."

"Shepherds will compete in the construction of tall buildings." [The modern ex-nomads of Saudi Arabia are an excellent example of this.]

"Knowledge of Islam will be taken away while ignorance will increase. This removal of knowledge will be because old scholars will die and fewer and fewer new scholars will replace them. The leaders of the Muslims will be chosen from ignorant people, and they will rule according to their whims." [Today, studying Islam formally is considered to be an inferior career in most of the Muslim world. The leaders of the Muslim world are more known for their political or military prowess (oppressive ability?) than Islamic knowledge.]

"Drinking and fornication will increase heavily."

"The population of men will decrease, and women increase till fifty women shall be for every man."

"Thirty people will claim to be prophets, followed by Al-Dajjal (the anti-Christ roughly)."

"There will be such an abundance of wealth that people will not be able to find recipients for zakat."

"Killing will increase."

"Time will be shortened so that a year will be like a month, a month like a day, a day like an hour." [This perception of the seemingly dwindling amount of time is very apparent, especially in First World countries.]

"Two great countries will fight and kill each other, both claiming the same thing."

"Earthquakes will increase in number." [Welcome to California. :-]

"A person will pass by the grave, and wish to trade places out of despair."

Major Signs (in rough chronological order)

"Al-Dajjal will come, claiming to be God holding Heaven and Hell. His purpose is to deceive, and unbelievers will follow him. He is short, red-faced, blind in the right eye, and has hair which sticks up. He will go around the world, but will be unable to enter Madinah or Makkah." [There are numerous detailed ahadith on this man.]

"Al-Mahdi will come at the time of Al-Dajjal. He will call to the true Islam, and will be a military leader. His name will be exactly like that of the Prophet: Muhammad ibn Abd-Allah, and his father's name will match the Prophet's father's name also. He will be descended from Fatima, the daughter of the Prophet."

"Isa (Jesus) will come at the time of Al-Dajjal and al-Mahdi as well. He will descend at the time of Fajr prayer on a masjid in Damascus, the capital of Syria. He is of medium height, red-faced, and his hair is as if he just took a shower. He will call people back to Islam, but he will also be a military leader. The People of the Book will revert to Islam, and wealth will be super-abundant. Isa will break the cross, kill the swine, and personally slay Al-Dajjal. He will stay on Earth for a long time thereafter, and then die."

"An animal will come and call people back to Islam." [A partial description of this animal is that it is very hairy, so much so that one will not be able to tell its front from its rear (Arabic: 'Dab-ba'). Reference to this animal is mentioned in the Qur'an.]

"Gog and Magog (two hidden tribes of people) will break free of the dam that holds them back, and ravage the earth. They will drink all the water, and kill people until Allah sends against them a worm which will wipe them out." [This is roughly before/during the time of Isa, although it is not entirely clear.]

"Three places in the world will sink and be swallowed up by the earth. One in the west, one in the east, and one in the Saudi Arabian peninsula." [This may refer to a series of giant, epic earthquakes.]

"Fire will come from the area of Aden in Yemen, and sweep northwards." [There are claims that this already happened in some medevial event.]

"The sun will rise from the west." [This description is not meant to be a symbolic one...but it is known that it is one of the last, if not the very last one before the following.]

"Smoke will appear all over the earth which will cause believers to catch something similar to a slight cold, whereas the unbelievers will be hit harder by it. Finally, a cold wind will come and kill all believers, leaving only unbelievers on the earth who will then witness the LAST HOUR. The angel Israfil will blow a trumpet, and the resurrection of all human beings will begin." [At this point, the Day of Resurrection commences in which the skies and earth are destroyed by Allah.]

This list is far from complete; there are many other signs. A couple more of interest are: Constantinople (Istanbul) will fall before Rome to Islam (note that this means Rome will indeed fall), and the Muslim political system will go from Prophetic leadership to a just Khilafah to a 'biting' authority to an oppressive authority and finally back to a just Khilafah. It seems that today we are in the next to last stage of this chain; now is a good time to actively work for the reestablishment of the Muslim state and Khilafah.

Finally, the Prophet has said that when the Signs start to come, they will come FAST - like a string of beads falling one after the other.

And Allah Knows Best.

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

YOU ALL ARE GOING TO SEE THE TRUTH SOONER THAN YOU THINK AND ALL OF YOU WHO MOCK ISLAM AND SAY IGNORANT THINGS ABOUT ALLAH (SWA) WILL BE PUNISHED. YES THE SIGNS OF THE LAST HOUR ARE COMING IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE WE COULD ALL BE GONE. YOU ALL FAIL TO REALIZE THAT. IF ONLY YOU COULD OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE WHAT WILL REALLY HAPPEN. INSHALLAH YOU ALL SEE THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU WILL WISH YOU DID!

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

tic tic tic.....

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

Far too long, no-one will read it.

Pure fantasy and guesswork anyway.

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

And all of those supposed "signs" could apply anywhere to any age. In truth, all that nonsense in the Quran and the Bible is just rantings of zealots and has no real relation to any furture events, unless some modern day zealot gets inspiration from them to cause a last hour.

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

WOW!!!! I just thought it was when the battery in my watch started to get weak.......

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

Holy crap what are you doing writting a book?

How long must we hear these insane claims that the world will end or the last hour or final BS?

Come on if Allah is real give us a date and if your Allah fails to come through then NO MORE ABOUT STUPID ALLAH!

Same goes for Christians!

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

All of this is based on the Islamic Faith. As a Christian, none of this applies to me nor what I believe in. God has told us that I will come like a thief in the night and no one will know until that time comes. He also said that there will be an angel on each of my shoulders. All of this is good enough for me and yours is good enough for you.

God Bless

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

The entire concept is nonsense. So is much of the Qur'an, for a discussion of errors in it, write via avatar.

What are Signs of the Last Hour?

First comes the Tribulation, then the Rapture, then the wrath of God on unbelievers. Check out the article at the first link below.

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

I have brown eyes, brown hair, and I'm tan. Yet I am obviously white. But there are Mexicans with lighter hair/eyes/skin than me, and it is obvious they are Mexican, not white. What is the distinguishing factor? I can't put my finger on it..has anyone else thought of this?

And yes I know we are all part of the "HUMAN RACE", so all you PC zombies with answers made of bunnies and rainbows, please don't waste my time...

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

Tell them you are INS and see if they run.

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

I'm Hispanic, I wouldn't give a rat's asss if someone told me they're INS --- so that makes me white, then. You and the asker are both idiots. Report It

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

tell em both to drop their drawers heheheheh

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

why do you need to distinguish? Anyways, its just facial features, and you cant always tell.....

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

Facial features and hair color, it's not that hard, come on.

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

As if it even matter but you could ask...that always works.

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

Why do you need to distinguish the differences between Whites and Hispanics?

Are you a racist?

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

Caucasian isn't based on skin color, it is the shape of the skull that determines that classification, and Mexicans are scientifically termed as Caucasian.... And Mexicans have white ancestry (the Spaniards were very fair skinned peoples before the invasion of the Aztecs and Incas)... so it is possible for some of them to be very light....

How can we distinguish a tan Caucasian from a Hispanic?

Well i really think you should look at their characters or their common habits then may be you can differntiate...

Bur seriously asking hay do you want to differentiate...

Cheers

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

Special thanks to my American friend who helped me proofread my writing.It's taken me almost a year to find some pieces of this information.

I believe that if you spend 5-10 minutes reading this essay, you will be better informed than if you listen to a lifetime's worth of Major Media news. Please don't assume that I'm a very old person. I'm just 18, and a university student studying English who just cannot sit back and let the lies fly unchallenged.

This article has two parts:

1. Cultural and general info

2. Political info.

If you wanna know the rest of of the story, read it from top to bottom.

Note:.I've explained all the things that you ALWAYS talk about, so read it all plz! Specially the political part! Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.

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Hi. I'm an Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.

The first thing America, and the West in general, accuses our government of is that we don't allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don't like as much as anyone. Many strict rules in other countries don't even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa. That's why you don't understand a few of Iran's laws.In Iran every single house has a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Almost half of women wear their hair out, and make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere. Iran is one of the super-consumers of cosmetics. You would be surprised to see the difference between what you imagine and what Iran really is!

In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, inflation and air pollution. But I guess these are common problems around the world today, aren't they? Also, you can't compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past!Nearly 65-70% of Iran's population is a new generation without the biases of the past (The youth), and we've transformed everything.

Some people think women don't have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. But that's not a bad thing. They're very respectful, and they've been the winners in so many cases: They get into the best universities because they're very smart. And they get the best jobs because they can do so many of them better than men. (That's why men can hardly find any good jobs because most jobs are already occupied by women!) They've got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so they (men) will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that's because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I've put a sample here. I feel foolish for sitting here explaining ordinary things to you.

Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? Are they balck and white or colourful? But in one case (related to many years ago) something terrible had happened which was just beyond the borders of adultery.We think being punished for corruption is good, as it deters people from doing that and the society will be far healthier than the countries in which commiting such things is considered to be normal! Iranians expect their gov't not to be soft on criminals.And for your information, most of those footages are from Afghanistan which was ruled by freaks (Taliban). When you think of such things, try to think of the racism in your country too. There's no perfect country!

I find it difficult to make you understand that Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! I find it even more difficult to make you understand that Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The point is, there's nothing mysterious about us! The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: "IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!" "IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!" Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.

There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. You don't hear about their discoveries and inventions on TV. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions and there are many KIDS like that. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don't the Media talk about them? Please don't summarize our nation and culture with the single word "nuclear". Although we're proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.Did you know that the countries having the highest number of scientists in the world are in this order? 1-India 2-Korea 3-Iran

A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine and it was signing treaties with other countries to export it. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it. What did I find instead? "President Bush CLAIMS that bomb parts are imported from Iran into Iraq!" (The same old story!) The Media are unjust. They put CLAIMS on the headlines, but they never talk about facts!

Some interesting facts:

Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian. The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It's one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they're among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman, and a song by one of the pop singers who/which won the nobel peace prize are Iranians. Lots of Iranians win nobel prizes specially in the field of medicine. Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets and scientists that are very famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (for foriegners of course, not for us! Our rate is different: one Dollar =about 950 Tomans!) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran is an independant country unlike its neighbours. It has nearly all the industries and technologies found in 'developed' countries. The list is endless.

News: "Iranian scientists managed to make human teeth grow after you've lost them using basic cells" I'm gonna introduce Iran's international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It's fully in English. You'll find what they're hiding from you! In the "Sic / Tech" section you'll always see Iran's discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx... Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!

Some charactristics of Iranians would be: intelligent, ambitious, a bit idealistic, well-dressed, formal, well-educated, warm and friendly, hospitable, and not so religious. We are also proud, greedy, hard-working (for ourselves), not punctual, impatient, and lazy at doing our duty well.

Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California, New Mexico, Utah, Arkansas, and Alabama a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn't it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran

If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places: (It's like a free tour!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...

http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...

http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...

http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...

http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran

Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. Did you know that Iranian music was chosen as the best pop in France in 2005? I guess not. All Iranian songs are current pop / DJ music. I send them to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they're some of the best songs they've ever heard. What makes Iranian music killer, is a lot of Trance drums, incredible melody and lyrics!

Here's a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites. (So catchy, Right?)You can just right click on the links below and choose "Save Target As" to download them. The translation of the songs is here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...

3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

8.(Farangis "A female name" 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...

9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...

10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...

11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...

12.(You can't: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...

13.(The wind's kiss: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

14.(Reveal your visage: 2004) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...

15.(What would have happened if : 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...

And so on and on!

It's now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts, riding camels and carrying around guns! See how the media are fooling people?

Let's clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans I chatted with said in the U.S it's said that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. It's easy to show a video or an image of our president or leader on the TV screen or on the internet and say he says this, he says that.....I really don't get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. For example does verbal defence of Palestinians cause them to have a better life? The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would misuse it against Iran. For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that. No sane person would take such nonsense at face value.

First of all, Iranians don't hate anyone. If our government complains about some injustice going on in the world, it's not bad, is it? (Although what we want from them is to shut up and not get us into trouble by talking about things that are none of our concern) We hate neither Jews nor Americans. I love Americans, otherwise why would I talk to them?! How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! I've got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov't. Jews are faithful people! A few of them live here in our neighbourhood and they live just like the rest of Iranians. No difference. And two of Iran's parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Muslim knocking at your door asking you to do so? It's so funny the way you imagine things and make yourselves believe in your own immaginations!

Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us. I wonder why the media like putting words in our mouth and raising hatred. In Iran, religion is one of the least important factors. Where you come from and what your religion is are not important to us at all. On the contrary, meeting different people would be very interesting for us!

I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone's guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he's going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same "nuclear weapons" tosh over and over and brainwash people! News headlines: "We won't allow Iran to gain nuclear weapons"!!! Correction! It's "nuclear energy". Besides, how many "nuclear weapons" do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That's what nuclear agency says. Only Iran's opponents are pulling Iran's leg and what they say is of no credit. It's just based on political conflicts. What we're doing is legal. What they ask us to do (ignoring our international rights) is illegal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It's the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them. It can set an example to some countries that just follow their interests (oil!). Interesting! the countries accusing Iran of different things have been, and are still accused of the same things!!! How logical!

Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! But have they told you the rest of his speech and that why he's said this at all? You know that it's a passive sentence. He's never said that IRAN wants to wipe Israel off the map! He wasn't talking about destroying Israel. He was talking about relocating Israel, so that they could live seperate from Palestinians and they could both live in peace. They've only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it's mistranslated intentionally. Iran has always defended itself, but it's not an offensive country.

Some say he's said: "The Holocaust is a myth!" Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that's terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren't important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that's not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran's population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it's OK and no one says they're threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you'd get the point why he's IRONICALLY said it's a myth. Moreover, don't you believe in freedom of speech/mind? I'd judge people by their ACTIONS rather than by what they say / their religion / race / culture and the colour of their skin!

Obviously, some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on. And what country is better than Iran to be a scapegoat? The whole world believes that Iran isn't a peaceful country. I know Americans don't like this either, but what can they do? They're not responsible for controlling what the Media says. This part is just for Americans who would still argue over unimportant things: Those of you who say why Iran says "Death to America":

1. 'America' to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean "American people" when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up "no war" placards?!

2. The new generation don't say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that's because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn't it?

3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt's terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn't deny that attacking countries is a mistake. right?)

5. The U.S gov't helped Saddam attack Iran and I hope you know which country gave Iraq biological weapons which killed lots of Iranians.

6. America hit an Iranian airplane over the Persian Gulf and killed 200 passengers for no reason.

7. America places sanctions on Iran, promotes a false image of Iran and Iranians, scares tourists away, and harms our economy, development and credit. To what purpose?

When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he's said, what do you call Bush for his actions? I mean it's a good idea to consider what Bush is doing to the world with his wrong decisoins and lies. Bush is powerful and influencial, but Ahmadinejad is nothing.

To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:

1. Firstly, It's related to so many years ago and it's almost a part of history, and don't forget that when there's a revolution, there'd be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they're all alive and healthy. Aren't they?

2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Poor British sailors were detained by the English gov't just for saying that they were treated well in Iran and that Iranians were logical people (They said these when they were on England's soil!) They were PREVENTED from releasing their memoirs by England! Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!! Considering all this, you'd probably be able to GUESS what percentage of what they tell you about the Mid-East, Islam, Moslems and other things is true!!! lol

Isn't it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov'ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don't care about hurting people's feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. You know something? All govt's are hateful. I just said the above things because it sounds unfair when some Americans talk about the taking of the 444 hostages while I keep silence. I hope you agree on this one! Now, what do you think? I can't wait to see both nations in peace. It'd be marvelous! They've started to have diplomatic talks! (Naughty children!) That's great!

Thanks for your time

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

ameen ameen brother, im a muslim american my background is polish venezuelan egyptian and turksih. thank you for lettin people know the truth i couldnt have said it anywhere near as good as that. just dont forget your dean

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

Americans are crap and full of bullshit! Report It

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

Do you work for the propaganda ministry?

This is a place to ask and answer questions not to post your essay on how grand and glorious Iran is.

Is the recent crack down by the religious police against young men and women who wear western dress just more western propaganda?

If Iranian medicine is so great why do people flock to the west for medical treatment if they can afford it?

If Iran is in such bad shape financially because of what the west does how can every single house in Iran have a satellite dish?

Check out this site to view some Iranian censorship.

http://www.freemuse.org/sw1420.asp

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

Are you trying to get an exit visa or something?

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

Peace is not possible, the religion and political ideologies are too extremely different.

Are you asking a question or giving an answer? Your "American Friend" needs to proofread a little better for you.

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

I give you an "F" for making me sleepy. Do it again but this time make it 10,000 sentences shorter.

Why do ppl say moslems have invented 1000 inventions while Iran invents several thousand each year?

Re: the question: who says that? Which "people"? David,(is that really your name?) if you want to be heard , don't make your posts so long , or the same for every question.