Friday, April 27, 2012

The Great Ideoogical War?

Do you guys think this is possible/plausible?



As time passes, the debates become more intense. Politics,economics,education,communicati... many more facets of human society become more and more entangled in the conflict. The number of people who have considered Secularism have increased substantially. The intensity of fanaticism have skyrocketed. The self-proclaimed "mainstreams" persecute unbelievers and minor beliefs alike, proclaiming that they are the "chosen ones", even though they have done more atrocities to mankind than a wig has strands of hair. Meanwhile, a SINGLE group, out of thousands of ideologies finally has the answer and the evidence to back it up; however, their words fall on deaf ears. Both the "Over"zealous fanatics and the "overly"doubtful sub-faction of the unbelievers don't even bother taking a look at this solution, due to their over jadedness towards other ideologies.



The seculars request a "peaceful" discussion with the "fanatics", but the pretentious leader of the fanatics, knowing that their wrong beliefs have no solid foundation, decline the request. This came to the Seculars as proof of the falseness of "all" belief systems. Interestingly, they didn't bother listening to what "the others" had to say, believing that "all" belief systems are similar and some of these beliefs are considered BY THE FANATICS(WHO BY THE WAY CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS THE TRUE ONES) AS JUST SECTS, SEPARATISTS %26amp; CULTS, eventhough NOT all of these beliefs are Truly branches but actually originated without the help of other groups. This led the Seculars to believe that "since the mainstream IS WRONG, then the others ARE ALSO wrong." As the grudges become heavier, assasssinations, arson, murder, discrimination, persecution, bombings and other crimes arise. Some groups have considered themselves superior humans and are are claiming to be near the next step in human evolution.



It finally broke into a full scale war. The Fanatics, believing that all nonbelievers must be cleansed,the Scientific Body(an organization composed of the "above humans" and the most violent members of the Secular side.) beliveing that it would be more favorable for all of the "homos" to have a single ideology which will make it more efficient for society to function let alone reduce conflict. Both factions will use all means possible to win.



Meanwhile the ones in the middle form an organization that wants to end this "Great Ideological War". Unlike the others, they listen "TO EVERY SINGLE OPINION, GREAT OR SMALL", thus they are not blinded by bias. They have learned their lessons through watching the other factions fight and slay each other. Fortunately, the group that found the truth AND the evidence have found a listening ear in this faction. They tought all they knew about the truth. Through this event, the neutrals realized that they must share this gift "THROUGH PEACEFUL MEANS ONLY." They tought the truth to the others, but alas, some have set their heart/mind on what they fight for while others just wasn't able to take it in. The ones who didn't accept the truth were still treated kindly by the neutrals, some accepted this act of kindness while others retreated to the borderlands and lived there.



The war took a heavy toll, many were lost.



It ended through a peaceful way, but you really just can't convince everybody. The majority of the unconvinced ones accepted the neutral's kind offer while some hated the neutrals to the core and have retreated, plotting their revenge against the ones who, ironically, want the best for them.



It's really a happy yet sad conclusion.



So, is it plausible/possible in real life?



The Great Ideoogical War?

If your War will be fought



...with Yawns...



(you will win)



Now, let's talk facts... there's NO WAR over ideology, and never was. Wars are fought by powers that raise money for more wealth, for knee-jerk REVENGE, for naked aggression, to protect some ally, for emancipation of a controlling power, over economics -- even "the Crusades" were to avenge treatment that had gotten back to Europe, and wasn't as black/white as you may think...



Come on now, Lester... don't go overboard on your fantasies of one fundamental group of zealots wanting/needing to overcome others... and pulling NATIONS into battle because of it. Wars are over oil, over land, over people, over INFLUENCE and heeping all the above out of the hands/spheres of other NATIONS... but, you think China and Russia give a rats' rear end about Islam?



The Great Ideoogical War?

I will wait for the movie to come out...... too long to read.



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The Great Ideoogical War?

What will happen is that the religious are losing power and numbers compared to the reasonable people who are rapidly gaining (faster than any religion and already outnumbering pretty much every religion but Christianity which has effectively dead anyway for a long time) so it'll probably get to the point at which the fanatics just don't have any power to do anything.



As religion crumbles the respect that religion once had will start to erode and criticism directed right at religion will start to be heard and generally accepted in society which will provide the best weapons against fanaticism out there.



The Great Ideoogical War?

There is only one Truth, His name Is Jesus.



The Great Ideoogical War?

Rational people generally oppose unnecessary wars. If your hypothetical ideological war becomes reality in our times, it will begin with Christianity versus Islam. As usual, the liberal intelligentsia will protest the needless slaughter and demonstrate for peace and, as usual, it won't make a damned bit of difference. Intelligent people who are usually avid readers, frequently develop enough historical perspective to appreciate the utter futility of sacrificing ones only chance at life for the sake of a superstitious ideology. Nevertheless, fundamentalists worldwide will conscript vast armies to self-fulfill the "prophesy" contained in ignorant ancient scriptures. It will be bloody war on a vast scale never before possible. ...total destruction.



After the great religious slaughter, the remaining believers will next turn on those who opposed the war -- blaming the world's intellectuals as usual, because both the Christians and the Muslims suffered devastating loses in a pointless futile war. Throughout the world, the superstitious masses will rise against the intellectual minority and eventually will destroy everyone who deeply understands science and how objective reality actually operates. Once the final purge is completed and the remaining fundamentalists have destroyed the intellectual foundations of human civilization, vast plagues and terrible famine will sweep around the world. The pitifully few remaining survivors, probably bands of starving nomadic scavengers, will eventually discover that the pages of the Bible and Koran are best used as kindling to start the evening's campfire.

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